http://warlords.swrebellion.com/wp/?p=58#more-58 has instructions for that version

been checking this thread every day for a month looking for an update.  i only got to play this once, then updated the game and it has never worked since   I'm really getting tired of playing Requiem.

Did you copy the mod into the correct Mods-Entrenchment v1.041 folder?

0.9 gives constant minidumps and 0.95 is not available for download, meaning that this mod doesn't work, at least for me.  Requiem is a far more refined and polished product, although I do like having 4 factions and appreciate the variety of ships in SOGE.  IMO, the models are a bit small; SOGE looks like normal Sins unless you zoom in all the way, except it isn't as fun because the research/tech tree thing is boring.  There isn't any depth to SOGE.  It's all about the variety of ships offered, which can't even be appreciated unless one uses cinematic mode or zooms in 100% on each individual ship.  I like being able to build the Executor, and I would love to decimate some worlds/fleets using an Eclipse SSD or a DEATH STAR, game balance be damned.

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Okay listen you, .95 is a beta, or haven't you been reading the threads. If you want a way more refined version than .9 sign up. Don't just blatantly criticize without doing thorough homework, and checking every angle like the beta. Its a mod in progress aswell. An all of the development team do this in there spare time I believe. Think before you speak.

EDIT:P.S: Also 90% of the work in Requiem was EVILLE's......

It's a work-in-progress. Eville has been heavily focused on getting the ships in-game. He's basically a one-man machine. Now he needs experienced modders to help. (Thanks to those that already are, like pyschoak)

There are daily updates on the beta test, eventually there will be research and others things. So stop complaining.

This is a pretty unprofessional way to respond to legitimate criticism.

It is a legitimate complaint, but it's not constructive. There are constructive outlets like actually getting on the beta.

The focus on Eville's mods has always been the ships first. That's where Eville's strengths lay.

Balance and gameplay has always been secondary, esp if you're expecting a full fleshed out game when the major developer is ONE person. Esp since this is a free project, no one is getting money so don't expect any real customer support

So ultimately it comes down to: do you want a good mod? Then help out or shut up (props to the guys that are filling our beta test and reporting bugs!)

Give me a break. If a release is publically available, giving criticism on that release is completely warranted (assuming it is not made obsolete by a subsequent, also publically available one) and no hoops should have to be jumped through to do so. As long as your "beta" is walled off from the public, the public should be obliged to make comments on the version that they have access to. If you don't enjoy getting this sort of criticism, you can either not release until the release is polished or let everybody test your "beta" - it is not the job of the public to make sure your mod is "good", it's yours alone.

Regardless of all of that, it's not very good PR to tell your fans they need to shut up. It takes very little effort to write a response that doesn't make one look like an asshole: "Hi, you are using an outdated version and we are working hard on fixing X and Y in the private beta, check back here and maybe you'll change your mind when we release" took me as little time to compose as it did to type.

I realize it's frustrating to see work being dismissed so handily but this kind of "criticism" is as valid as any other, and feedback, negative or positive, is equivalent to gold when you're making a mod.

There is significant development going on in the beta, which will address a lot of the abilities and hopefully the research tree. Criticisms of the beta are worthwhile and meaningful, the rest is generally not. We know the 0.90 release was minidump-city, which required an extensive overhaul to fix.

When the beta does go public, I think you'll find a lot of issues resolved.

The public really should have low expectation on quality because

- this is a free mod
- this is a work-in-progress mod (not even version 1.0)
- this is one main developer working on his free time

It is not meaningful to deride the mod as "good" or "not good" because "feature X has not been implemented" versus another mod. Requiem has solely been focused on balancing with the existing stock races - it picks up many the work of Eville's models. Where as SOGE is a completely seperate goal, a full conversion with as many ships as Eville can put in.

(Not to condone Ryuzaki777 way of stating things. It is certainly can be put in a more diplomatic fashion, but frustrating when all the links are at the top of the post )

Well my apologies for not being "Diplomatic" I just don't like people who can so easily look down on someone who has been moding for years, and one who has been putting in extensive effort into a total conversion of a full game almost single handedly as Eville is doing now. While also criticizing work that was already established as needing improvement. I come across as unprofessional because I'm not professional. I get my point across.

gee I go off to play dragon age for a while and return to this, fun...

to be completely honest the 'beta' is so easy to get into that I think about 99% of the people that have signed up did so just to get the game and play it (yeah there are a few extra steps, but too many things are changing to make a full package worthwhile). At this point being in the 'beta' actually gets frequent updates from the SVN, the only real reason for a public downloadable release is to pick some arbitrary version that is out of date and give the sprawling masses somethign that is click and download...

anyway it's probably pretty close to having a point release of the 'beta' so by Thanksgving that will be avaialble for download (file front or similiar)

if you are in the 'beta' list you can keep up to date using the SVN and won't have to worry about the point release, you'll have a better version with more updates

everyone got that?

I've been busy with schooling an haven't had time for anymore proper playthrough testing myself. As for public release atleast people will stop Bitching.

I resent the implication that I'm competent help!

And i thought i caught crap for my work sheesh... Least i tell the nay sayers of my stuff to go to hell if they dont like it

Why do people treat our hobby like it is a profession? and that we are "obligated" to build this stuff for you? It all has to be "Perfect" no less. It pisses me off each, and every time i see bullshit like this. I ask myself sometimes why do we bother. Only a few appreciate it. While the rest post pages, and pages of relentless bitching.

I just love the comment that if we put it up for public download we "should" expect to get nit picked, and trashed to death, and have absolutely ridiculous demands be made of us. Those individuals really show respect our hobby.,,, NOT

Perhaps all of the veteran modders should take the advise, and STOP ALL WORK. Maybe it will clear out these boards of idiots.