Man i keep getting mini-dumps when i start playing the game i can be playing for 10 mins 20 mins or even a d*** hour but i always get a mini-dump and it always happens WHEN THE BATTLE GETS GOOD!!!!  Someone PLEASE help, cause i really need it, stardock only says look in the forum and thats it, no help at all to this certain situation

You and me both buddy. best mod ive ever seen and its the ultimate tease! play then minidump = denied!

Best thing you can do though is play it, see if there is "triggers" that you think causes the dumps then report it to EvilleJedi who provides this mod so we can assist him in squashing the bugs.

God damned I want to play this mod so bad!!

*goes back to testing*

I may have run across another trigger, or maybe not.

It seems that, no matter the distance, when I self-destruct an Alliance capitol ship, less than a minute later it mini dumps.

Other than that, my minidumps have been seemingly random, yet tend to happen during fight (epic and generic) yet aren't consistent at all. The only other corrolation isthat I never minidump as the Empire. i minidump more under the Alliance, then the Republic, then the CIS (Republic minidumps pretty early, though). Is anyone else experiencing the same thing?

I'll play again soon and actually write down the situations so as to be ofbetter help.

I think the scuttle minidump is directly related to bad explosions/debris, I think I've at last got that one narrowed down. I believe the rest are abilities and the pirates.

I've had no problems with the pirates (except with them spamming f*cking dreadnaughts...my poor MC80a and co.). The same goes with explosions and debris. I've been plaing on Highest, high, medium settings (top to bottom) for ships and structures, and highest on planet detail. No elevators, highlighted gravity wells, 'ship mesh highlight', and no colored or deep-space skyboxes....if that helps at all.

Then again...I have been primarily playing on a costum map of 189 random planets around a single star....

It's terribly unfair to them, but pirates are really easy to handle.  Just build repair platforms for them to chew on and leave your fleet just outside their target.  Phase in right after them and you've got a free meal while they eat through the 25k hitpoint shielded building.

One problem seems to be that "FixedLevel0" abilities sometimes don't work on capital ships, most notably Demolition Bots.  Or possibly it is a research requirement problem.

You have to research all the abilities before they can be used

certain ones i should say

Going through the entity files, some of them may be missing.  The repair platforms for instance don't actually repair.  The tech that makes them available was removed, but their repair ability is still dependant on it even though the platform itself can be constructed.

This mod is AWESOME!  I played several games and got a mini-dump only once, playing the Empire.  The origional factions are real easy to beat though, a couple hits and their ships go down but its still fun.  The only real complaint I have is that the ships are way too dark and the Capital Ships are small compared to the rest. 

well here are the steps I have taken

1) started from 1.16 base binary data in the particle, window and gameinfo folder. Added mod files. All of the mod files do not overwrite existing files except for explosions.explosiondata, soundeffects.sounddata, soundmusic.sounddata, HudIcon-ship.brushes, loadscreen.brushes and the planet files (the planets only increased the size of the gravity wells.

2) removed all abilities from ships and removed the modded abilities.

3) checked the overwritten files line by line for missing references or invalid values.

I still get minidumps occasionally

so it looks like going through the new mod files for missing entries after that I really can't say I have any idea why the game would mini dump (it really should only minidump when something isn't referenced properly and doesn't exist or when a value would create a value that a function cannot handle, though all the minidumps that do occur seem to be bad pointer references)

  if that does fix the majority of the issues adding back abilities one by one will be the next step.

Having burned the midnight oil with a friend trying to find the issues in this simply put awesome mod over the last 2 days all our waking hours this is what ive found so far (apologies if it has been mentioned before or is allready known)

Research:

-Cannot research "Wormhole Navigation" and "Long Distance Jumps" as Empire (the icons are there bud overlapped by existing other research. They can be clicked but no research comes of them thus making multiple star games impossible as youre land locked.

- The research of "phase jump disruption" and "Interstellar networks" seems redundant since you can build those structures off the bat?

Structures:

- Repair Platforms dont seem to actually repair. Theyre also missing the auto-cast icon for repair ie you cant use them manually neither.

- Novalith can be built but not fired.

Ships:

- Antimatter Regen. Edit nm I found out how this works its fine

- Abilities/Autocast we agree seems to be some but not exclusive to the minidump issues. There is also a lot of ships which becomes bugged/or is bugged for ship abilities and purchases when levelling. Where points cant be spent ect. Especially with Alliance Capitals.

Bugs/Minidump maybes:

- Pirates set as inactive greatly reduces minidumps.

- Minidumps is near impossible to pin-point for us non-programmers as we had a million of them last night and they were utterly random. We even saved the game every 3 mins manually to try and get "as close to a minidump" as we could get but each and every time it would let us game a little longer without exception. We had easily over 100 minidumps during testing over last few days and not once could we replicate it to a fact.

We are confident to say that we agree with you EvilleJedi that it seems to often be involved with abilities and may very well have links to the debris. But we simply dont know. We do not have programming aptitude so its difficult for us to link the events with the "aha!" moment.

So far all testing has been with Alliance and Empire in various forms.

One last wish.

Is there any way the function shield transfer from TEC could be included in some shape or form could be a lot less powerful for all i care or maybe a repair platform that does shields restore or some such? Reason I ask is we found that our flagships massive shields would slowly get eroded by the game by sheer attrition and due to its size would never recharge in any meaningful way even out of combat and as a result we could just watch our ships get eaten down to the bones through the game with no way of doing anything about it

Hope this helps.

Awesome mod, awesome job. Hope we get rid of the worst mini dumping´.

Going to edit this post with anything I find as summary

Well I found rebuilding from vanilla files to be the easiest way to get a mod working, especially across major versions - perfecting a race/abilities/research etc before moving onto the next race. Hence my manifest/string files have all my "customs" at the top so that in the event of major changes I can copy my changes back into vanilla files pretty quickly.

How about releasing a "CIS only" release that people can thrash out for you?

Even a relatively simply mod like Requiem was generating obscure minidumps simply because I typo'ed some rarely used ability (one memorable one used to generate a minidump 15 minutes into the game, because I typo'ed an ability that the AI researched and only used later!).

The error popups don't capture everything... I can imagine getting a total conversion error free would be an absolute nightmare.

I did some testing of SOGE myself as the CIS race against Alliance AI without pirates and I had a pretty stable experience right up to the point where I right-clicked to auto-level capital ship special abilities and mini-dumped there. I wish I could remember the CIS capital exaclty (the second cheapest one with decent DPS I think) so maybe it was activating an ability that caused it.

Jason your mod MiniDumps just as bad so i wouldnt give Eville any advice